Our friend Tom recently contacted us with some comments and questions regarding Roseville jardinieres and pedestals. The following is an excerpt of Tom’s email:
I have loved and collected Roseville for a long while now. I have never been able to determine something about the Roseville jardiniere and pedestals. Especially as regards the middle period jars and peds, sunflower, blackberry and wisteria. If you consult the references (and I have all the ones you mentioned in your latest excellent article!), you will get conflicting information. Some list an 8 inch, 10 inch, and 12 inch jardiniere and pedestal. Some only list 8 and 10 inch jar and peds and a solo twelve inch jardiniere only. Having never seen the twelve inch jar in sunflower, blackberry, or wisteria I am wondering if it has its own pedestal that is larger than the ten inch jard’s pedestal. Or if it was made without a matching pedestal like some of the smaller jardinieres? Or does the twelve inch jardiniere have the same base size as the ten inch jar? Or does it have a bigger base but still is able to sit on the ten inch jard’s pedestal. In other words is the ten inch pedestal interchangeable with a ten OR a twelve inch jardiniere? I would like to get the largest jar and ped in the middle period patterns, but would love getting to the bottom of this question before seriously starting purchasing. I have a perfect ten inch jar and ped in the blackberry pattern and love it. But, I am thinking i have seen a larger set about twenty years ago. Or, was I just imagining it?
Tom brings up some very good questions; most of which I can’t definitively answer. And he is correct in stating that the available Roseville reference books contradict one another regarding jardiniere and pedestal sizes for various middle period patterns.
I believe that I have seen 12" jardinieres in the Sunflower and Blackberry patterns but not in Wisteria. I don’t know the answer to the question of if the 12" jardinieres had their own pedestals or simply used the larger 10" pedestal. My suspicion is that the 12" jardinieres were made without a matching pedestal.
I do not believe the 12" jardiniere has the same base diameter as the 10" jardiniere. However, in my opinion, it is likely that 12" jardinieres were sold by Roseville with the larger pedestal. I believe this because over the years we have purchased several estate collections with relatively odd sized Weller and Roseville jardiniere and pedestals where the family indicated the sets had been together since they were purchased in the 1920s or 1930s. Some of these jardiniere and pedestal sets were so rare that I find it very unlikely the original owner married the pieces together later.
I’m sure some of our experienced Roseville collectors can help shed some light on these jardiniere and pedestal shape and size discrepancies. Clearly the Roseville factory stock pages are incomplete and the available reference books inconsistent.
Recently purchased a 12 inch jardiniere in the Imperial I pattern here in NH. I also was surprised to see that the reference book (Bassett) had no listing for a matching pedestal. The base foot on my jardiniere measures 7 1/2 inches in diameter. I also would like to know if this would fit on the pedestal for the 10″ jardiniere. If anyone having a pedestal for the 10″ jardiniere could make this measure it would be appreciated.
I checked a few of the 10″ Roseville pedestals we have around here and most of them are different sizes. However, I would guess that if the base of your jardiniere is only 7 1/2″ it would fit on a 10″ pedestal.
I have a Roseville three piece Jardinere, rose in color with green leaf pattern. I was trying to get a value price as I am possibly looking to sell it. It has been in the family three generations at least. Exellent condition. Please let me know the value or where I should go.
I’ve got a J.B. Owens Roseville art nouveau/Victorian Majolica piece that is a heavily three-dimensional pedestal featuring a heron.
The entire piece is high glaze in shades of brown and green, possibly using some drip application? idk
The height of the plant shelf is perhaps 30″ (the piece is not with me) with the heron’s wing bent above that at about 39″ high. There is a matching base the stylized pedestal sits on.
I believe it was termed a “continental monumental jardiniere” circa 1900. It has been in my family now into the 5th generation!
I have only seen one like this piece. It had not been well cared for, with several places of permanent and serious damage. Plus, I’m not certain the man truly was aware of what he had, therefore not having had it available for proper valuation or marketing to potential buyers.
Does anyone recognize this description? (I can’t post a pic on this site). Any idea of its worth or who to ask?
Recently purchased a 12 inch jardiniere in the Imperial I pattern here in NH. I also was surprised to see that the reference book (Bassett) had no listing for a matching pedestal. The base foot on my jardiniere measures 7 1/2 inches in diameter. I also would like to know if this would fit on the pedestal for the 10″ jardiniere. If anyone having a pedestal for the 10″ jardiniere could make this measure it would be appreciated.
I have a Roseville three piece Jardinere, rose in color with green leaf pattern. I was trying to get a value price as I am possibly looking to sell it. It has been in the family three generations at least. Exellent condition. Please let me know the value or where I should go.
I checked a few of the 10″ Roseville pedestals we have around here and most of them are different sizes. However, I would guess that if the base of your jardiniere is only 7 1/2″ it would fit on a 10″ pedestal.